copperbadge:

slothlorien:

copperbadge:

shinyrock6498:

isitasandwich:

Cream Cheese Pickle.

No, it is not a sandwich.

But its a food thing between two identical food things and its the right shape essentially.

@copperbadge

Well, let’s remember that my definition of sandwich is “An adjective used to differentiate foodstuffs, applied only when necessary”. IE, a taco does not need to be CALLED a sandwich whether it is one or not, because it is already fully identified as a taco, whereas a turkey sandwich requires differentiation from “a turkey”. 

By that measure, this perhaps should be a sandwich, because “cream cheese pickle” could be construed as pickled cream cheese otherwise. (Indeed, when I saw “cream cheese pickle” in the text before opening the post, I thought it would be some form of sandwich spread involving pickles and cream cheese.) It clearly is one object “sandwiched” between two others, and it would help to differentiate this foodstuff from a cream-cheese-pickle spread or “pickled” cream cheese. I don’t think you could actually pickle cream cheese, but now I’d like to find out.

So I’m going to have to disagree with @isitasandwich on this one, but I respect their work and their mission and I salute their efforts to identify, once and for all, what is and is not a sandwich. Godspeed, isitasandwich, long may you reign.

OBJECTION

“I had a grilled cheese for lunch” unambiguously identifies what you ate and is perfectly common usage of language, and yet few people of honest means would deny that grilled cheese is a form of sandwich and that grilled cheese sandwich is also valid speech.

Citation for people saying “grilled cheese” without adding sandwich: the first sentence of this video

https://www.tastemade.com/videos/grilled-cheese-tips

But that proves my point – while we CAN say Grilled Cheese Sandwich, we don’t NEED TO say “sandwich” because there is no other foodstuff to which “grilled cheese” commonly applies*. Sandwich remains an optional adjective applicable to the grilled cheese but not required.

Thus my assertion that “sandwich” is not a noun. You’re still thinking about how to classify something as “a sandwich” or “not a sandwich” when sandwich is an adjective applied only in cases of necessity; it should be “needs sandwich” or “doesn’t need sandwich”. 

Though admittedly I could have clarified that in my post; I should have said not that it IS a sandwich but that it is a foodstuff requiring the application of the WORD sandwich in order to be properly identified. I will cop to that being my bad.

* Although Haloumi is grilled or griddled cheese, it is more commonly simply referred to as Haloumi, and therefore this is an important but minor exception to the rule. 

this whole grilled cheese sandwich thing fascinates me because I was pretty much expecting just the grilled cheese and no bread because cheese and bread under a grill is welsh rarebit UNLESS I guess this is a thing with two slices of bread rather than just the one?

I want grilled cheese now (not the kind with bread)

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